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Robert Anton Wilson
5/8/10 12:06 PM
Hello there!

I'm sure most of you know about pope Bob, however I haven't seen any reference to him in this forum, and I was wondering whats your opinion on him, specially regarding the work on the 8 circuits.



Cheers!
Andy
RE: Robert Anton Wilson
5/9/10 6:20 PM as a reply to Andres Coca Lopez.
All I know of him is what I gleaned from reading Prometheus Rising, which was fun and interesting and made a lot of good points in interesting ways.

Seems smart, thoughtful, and willing to think about things in new and unusual ways.
RE: Robert Anton Wilson
5/10/10 6:19 AM as a reply to Daniel M. Ingram.
I really love Robert Anton Wilson, he was pretty much the first 'spiritual' author I got my hands on. I have only read Cosmic Trigger (blew my mind), Prometheus Rising (loved it to bits) and Illuminati (did not like). I also like the fact that when you read him, you get a strong whiff of the era from which he came and that he was writing from. In my mind he came from the same stream as Leary and Christopher Hyatt, a stream that seems to have gone mostly dry due to the deaths of all three mentioned.

More on him: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1422743250837892881#

- great documentary, shows a lot about him personally as well as revealing some of his ideas
RE: Robert Anton Wilson
5/10/10 12:41 PM as a reply to Andres Coca Lopez.
Prometheus Rising was a game-changer for me, and lead me on to Crowley who eventually lead me to Buddhism and the DhO. PR also introduced me to several other big influences (Korzybski, Gurdjieff..).

I found the 8 circuit model very useful in my own self-observation and as an integrative nexus around which I could hang all this cool new knowledge. To this day whenever I see people getting carried away by their emotions I still think "C2 influencing C3." When I think about how people tick, I often find myself coming back to a basic version of the 8 circuit model (particularly the lower 4 - I think the upper 3 or 4 are a bit more dubious/overlapping) although nowadays I think of it as the "human holarchy" - each "circuit" transcending and including its "lower", with the power still flowing primarily from the lower circuits (survival comes first!)

Bob found a lot in Buddhism and its view of the self (empty, shifting). I always wondered what he would have said if he had actually found something like the DhO and experienced enlightenment for himself. I think he had a lot of magical experience and some heavy samadhi/jhana concentration stuff from his Crowley work, but not much in the way of fundamental insight as its defined around here. Then again, his general understanding of neurological relativism and epistemology are brilliant, not to mention hilarious.

I think Quantum Psychology (a "follow-up" of sorts to PR) is a more comprehensive and penetrating book. I go back to it often, although PR certainly had the biggest influence. Thanks Bob!