Jim Smith Practice Log #4

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3ヶ月前 に Jim Smith によって更新されました。 at 24/06/24 3:40
Created 3ヶ月 ago at 24/06/12 22:57

Jim Smith Practice Log #4

投稿: 1787 参加年月日: 15/01/17 最新の投稿
My views on meditation and mindfulness are explained here: 
https://ncu9nc.blogspot.com/p/meditation.html


Links I think are helpful:

Links I'm often looking up put here so I can find them easily...
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MCTB2 Links 

100% capture
https://www.mctb.org/mctb2/table-of-contents/part-vi-my-spiritual-quest/70-around-the-world-and-finding-home/the-second-mbmc-retreat/

never destabilized
https://www.mctb.org/mctb2/table-of-contents/part-vi-my-spiritual-quest/70-around-the-world-and-finding-home/vimuttimagga-the-path-of-freedom/

You know, some people are arahants only on retreat.
https://www.mctb.org/mctb2/table-of-contents/part-vi-my-spiritual-quest/70-around-the-world-and-finding-home/wobble-and-fall/

https://www.mctb.org/mctb2/table-of-contents/part-v-awakening/37-models-of-the-stages-of-awakening/the-theravada-four-path-model/

Daniel:
Utter centerlessness: no watcher, no sense of a watcher, no subtle watcher, no possibility of a watcher.
https://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/2715189#_com_liferay_message_boards_web_portlet_MBPortlet_message_2718243

Previous practice logs:
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#3 is here
https://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/25556111

# 2, is here: 
https://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/23406442

# 1 is here: 
https://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/22843214#_com_liferay_message_boards_web_portlet_MBPortlet_message_8496517
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3ヶ月前 に Jim Smith によって更新されました。 at 24/06/23 16:51
Created 3ヶ月 ago at 24/06/23 16:51

RE: Jim Smith Practice Log #4

投稿: 1787 参加年月日: 15/01/17 最新の投稿
I have been meditating a little bit differently lately.

There is a feeling of non-attachment I notice with metta or jhana's. I have been isolating that and just meditating on that feeling with just a tad of the elevated mood that comes from metta or jhana's. It facilitates disengaging the ego.


I've also been thinking of a phrase "Being no one, having nothing" I read in The Magic of Awareness. It's a good compliment to the above, when done with an upbeat mood. I think it's not something you understand through reason, it's something that works into the unconscious mind when  you are in a meditative state, (ie it doesn't work through the default network). The meaning is something you feel, if you know from experience that ego clinging is the cause of suffering you can understand/feel that being no one and having nothing would end suffering.
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2ヶ月前 に Jim Smith によって更新されました。 at 24/07/11 20:41
Created 2ヶ月 ago at 24/07/11 20:41

RE: Jim Smith Practice Log #4

投稿: 1787 参加年月日: 15/01/17 最新の投稿
I posted this on reddit and I thought others here might be interested...

For me, the thing that has the most obvious effect of creating the sense of a self is the sense of purpose or agency. The feeling of having and acting with will creates the sense of self.

If you observe the mind casually and you see a thought -> emotion -> impulse -> action  - we assume (feel like) we are an entity reacting by exercising will. 

But if you watch the mind more closely, you see that those events are the result of impersonal cause and effect (not intention) and are produced by unconscious processes before they rise into awareness. It tells you the idea of having conscious will is an assumption or an opinion that might not be correct (depending on how you define terms). (And the feeling of being an entity with will is just another feeling arising from unconscious processes.)

The feeling of being an observer is similar, it is an assumption we make things that arises to consciousness from unconscious processes. 

A better way to explain the self would be to say it is a collection of loosely connected unconscious processes interacting through cause and effect that sometimes work at cross purposes (for example craving rich food while being afraid of gaining weight). 

What we usually think of as the self, an entity observing and exercising will, is really just an image, a portrait of what we believe about our self ie the self-image. We mistake an image of a thing for the actual thing. Actually most people already know a lot about this they just don't connect the dots. We know we get distracted when we try to focus on something - we don't control our thoughts. We have unpleasant emotions we don't want - we don't control our emotions. We have impulses that are often unhelpful, we don't control our impulses or actions. Our sense of our role in life changes from situation to situation, student, child, parent, employee, supervisor. Our sense of our personal characteristics changes with our emotions: pride, shame, winner, loser, etc. The feeling of being changes with physical sensations - hot, cold, pleasure, pain, etc. The self image is constantly changing, coming into existence when we have thoughts of self, and vanishing when we are absorbed in external perception.

Quieting the mind, slowing down it's activity, through meditation - so you can see clearly what it is doing - will help you see this. Try to see how the sense of agency you feel arises from your assumptions about things happening through impersonal cause and effect. The sense of being a "self" is something that is caused by assumptions we make. It really is an opinion that isn't right or wrong - but you understand it in a very different way when you understand the assumptions you are making and why you make them.
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3 日前 に Jim Smith によって更新されました。 at 24/09/23 18:23
Created 3 日 ago at 24/09/23 18:16

RE: Jim Smith Practice Log #4

投稿: 1787 参加年月日: 15/01/17 最新の投稿
Nirvana is in the present moment, not in the future.

If you want awakening, if you want nirvana, stop expecting it or hoping for it sometime in the future and start looking for it in the present moment.

Consider all the things you want or fear in the future, or regret about the past, or things that you want, or like, or don't like now - you have to let go of all that because nirvana is in the present moment.  

Look for non attachment in the present moment not in the future. Try to find it now. Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, that's where you need to look for it. It's there, in your mind, right now. Stop clinging.
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3 日前 に Chris M によって更新されました。 at 24/09/23 18:19
Created 3 日 ago at 24/09/23 18:19

RE: Jim Smith Practice Log #4

投稿: 5404 参加年月日: 13/01/26 最新の投稿
It's all happening now, right? The future is just thoughts now, as is the past. So there's just here-now all the time.

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