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I think I had stream entry
Zbigniew Delikowski,修改在4 个月前。 at 24-5-22 下午3:10
Created 4 个月 ago at 24-5-22 下午3:10
I think I had stream entry
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Hi, this will be quick
After spending ~20 hours straight in Jhanas and having a quick cessation, I had a weird change. My experience became impersonal. There is no "I" anymore. "I" just see everything in the mind as just happening causally, naturally occurring phenomena, without any person inside. There is still sometimes clinging to some experience tho, so I am not sure this is stream entry. It happened a week ago, and for now it seems very stable. How to verify what this experience actually is?
After spending ~20 hours straight in Jhanas and having a quick cessation, I had a weird change. My experience became impersonal. There is no "I" anymore. "I" just see everything in the mind as just happening causally, naturally occurring phenomena, without any person inside. There is still sometimes clinging to some experience tho, so I am not sure this is stream entry. It happened a week ago, and for now it seems very stable. How to verify what this experience actually is?
Pawel K,修改在4 个月前。 at 24-5-22 下午4:15
Created 4 个月 ago at 24-5-22 下午4:15
RE: I think I had stream entry
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You will need to give it more time.
It sounds pretty great as far as these things go.
Also I would recommend not pushing for any 'verification' yet.
Keep the good practice but not overdo it.
It sounds pretty great as far as these things go.
Also I would recommend not pushing for any 'verification' yet.
Keep the good practice but not overdo it.
Matt Jon Rousseau,修改在4 个月前。 at 24-5-22 下午6:08
Created 4 个月 ago at 24-5-22 下午6:03
RE: I think I had stream entry
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Created 4 个月 ago at 24-5-22 下午11:33
RE: I think I had stream entry
帖子: 1770 加入日期: 12-1-18 最近的帖子Zbigniew Delikowski
Hi, this will be quick
How to verify what this experience actually is?
Hi, this will be quick
How to verify what this experience actually is?
Perhaps you might read old posts here and compare.
~D
shargrol,修改在4 个月前。 at 24-5-23 上午7:39
Created 4 个月 ago at 24-5-23 上午7:39
RE: I think I had stream entry
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Your previous posts were very concerning (Hardcore meditation induced psychosis and suicidal tendencies - Discussion - www.dharmaoverground.org), I hope you are doing better now.
Matt Jon Rousseau,修改在4 个月前。 at 24-5-23 下午4:10
Created 4 个月 ago at 24-5-23 下午4:10
RE: I think I had stream entry
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I believe you might have a dissociation or a de realization disorder. Possibly meditation induced or underlying problem. I COULD BE WRONG. Your doctor needs to know your meditating 20 hours a day. See what he says. That type of sensory deprivation can make somebody crazy
Papa Che Dusko,修改在4 个月前。 at 24-5-23 下午7:57
Created 4 个月 ago at 24-5-23 下午7:57
RE: I think I had stream entry
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Strat a log here on DhO and log your daily meditation for the next 6 months. Then ask folks here to give you their opinion
Adi Vader,修改在4 个月前。 at 24-5-25 上午6:08
Created 4 个月 ago at 24-5-25 上午6:08
RE: I think I had stream entry
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Please do very systematic vipashyana.
Make the movements of the breath at the abdomen your grounding object.
When a secondary object (distraction) exerts a pull on attention, permit attention to track it till it ends. Simply knowing sounds as sounds, thoughts as thoughts etc.
Do a few one hour sessions and write about what you observe as happens with the secondary object, attention, and knowing.
For each session give a description in your writing in simple lucid plain 'street' language.
Avoid words like anp, dukkha nana, fruitions etc like the anathema. No meditation language, only street english.
Simple, empirical, un-embellished language.
If during the course of one hour you feel excited, sad, energized, confident etc then write that.
Basis such detailing you will get excellent feedback
Make the movements of the breath at the abdomen your grounding object.
When a secondary object (distraction) exerts a pull on attention, permit attention to track it till it ends. Simply knowing sounds as sounds, thoughts as thoughts etc.
Do a few one hour sessions and write about what you observe as happens with the secondary object, attention, and knowing.
For each session give a description in your writing in simple lucid plain 'street' language.
Avoid words like anp, dukkha nana, fruitions etc like the anathema. No meditation language, only street english.
Simple, empirical, un-embellished language.
If during the course of one hour you feel excited, sad, energized, confident etc then write that.
Basis such detailing you will get excellent feedback
brian patrick,修改在2 个月前。 at 24-7-11 下午1:40
Created 2 个月 ago at 24-7-11 下午1:40
RE: I think I had stream entry
帖子: 71 加入日期: 23-10-31 最近的帖子Zbigniew Delikowski
Hi, this will be quick
After spending ~20 hours straight in Jhanas and having a quick cessation, I had a weird change. My experience became impersonal. There is no "I" anymore. "I" just see everything in the mind as just happening causally, naturally occurring phenomena, without any person inside. There is still sometimes clinging to some experience tho, so I am not sure this is stream entry. It happened a week ago, and for now it seems very stable. How to verify what this experience actually is?
Hi, this will be quick
After spending ~20 hours straight in Jhanas and having a quick cessation, I had a weird change. My experience became impersonal. There is no "I" anymore. "I" just see everything in the mind as just happening causally, naturally occurring phenomena, without any person inside. There is still sometimes clinging to some experience tho, so I am not sure this is stream entry. It happened a week ago, and for now it seems very stable. How to verify what this experience actually is?
totally understandable to want to "know" but if this is stream entry it won't go anywhere and verifying it is, won't help the process play out.
Matt Jon Rousseau,修改在2 个月前。 at 24-7-11 下午6:24
Created 2 个月 ago at 24-7-11 下午6:24
RE: I think I had stream entry
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Created 24天 ago at 24-9-4 上午3:48
RE: I think I had stream entry
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If someone is prone to disassociation or de- realization . Meditation can make it worse . Please read his other post.
John L,修改在23天前。 at 24-9-4 下午8:28
Created 23天 ago at 24-9-4 下午8:28
RE: I think I had stream entry
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Created 23天 ago at 24-9-5 上午7:45
RE: I think I had stream entry
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